Comments on: Squaring Zooko’s triangle http://www.lshift.net/blog/2007/11/10/squaring-zookos-triangle What happens at LShift Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:21:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.12-alpha by: Paul Crowley http://www.lshift.net/blog/2007/11/10/squaring-zookos-triangle#comment-70819 Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:22:19 +0000 http://www.lshift.net/blog/2007/11/10/squaring-zookos-triangle#comment-70819 <p>OK - have fixed that in the article. Do you happen to know which of you has priority? It might be good to add an addendum to your article clarifying the situation. Thanks!</p> <p>Sounds like one of you was right on the others heels with this one either way - clearly an idea whose time had come. I remember thinking of a fantastic way to use multiple-target attacks to break 3DES, and getting part-way through writing it up when I went to check my references... and discovered that the exact attack is presented in the original paper about multiple-target attacks, Aargh.</p> OK - have fixed that in the article. Do you happen to know which of you has priority? It might be good to add an addendum to your article clarifying the situation. Thanks!

Sounds like one of you was right on the others heels with this one either way - clearly an idea whose time had come. I remember thinking of a fantastic way to use multiple-target attacks to break 3DES, and getting part-way through writing it up when I went to check my references… and discovered that the exact attack is presented in the original paper about multiple-target attacks, Aargh.

]]> by: Clay Shirky http://www.lshift.net/blog/2007/11/10/squaring-zookos-triangle#comment-70811 Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:18:55 +0000 http://www.lshift.net/blog/2007/11/10/squaring-zookos-triangle#comment-70811 <p>I wrote "Domain Names: Memorable, Global, Non-political?" before I'd read Zooko's work. I have referenced that work since.</p> I wrote “Domain Names: Memorable, Global, Non-political?” before I’d read Zooko’s work. I have referenced that work since.

]]> by: Patroklos Argyroudis http://www.lshift.net/blog/2007/11/10/squaring-zookos-triangle#comment-70780 Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:37:49 +0000 http://www.lshift.net/blog/2007/11/10/squaring-zookos-triangle#comment-70780 <p>This is a very interesting proposal. The main idea behind it reminds me of Davida's and Desmedt's hash function based key establishment protocol:</p> <p>http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=111563.111572</p> <p>As it has been extensively investigated in the relevant literature, I don't think that Zooko's triangle can be fully satisfied without making some trade-offs. Proposals like this one should be analysed according to these trade-offs and compared based on the possible target application domains.</p> This is a very interesting proposal. The main idea behind it reminds me of Davida’s and Desmedt’s hash function based key establishment protocol:

http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=111563.111572

As it has been extensively investigated in the relevant literature, I don’t think that Zooko’s triangle can be fully satisfied without making some trade-offs. Proposals like this one should be analysed according to these trade-offs and compared based on the possible target application domains.

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